Gene's frames are nice, but theyre nothing that special, or at least his standard frames are; I can't say anything about his custom work. I can say that their best point is not beauty though, and his welds tend to be thick and nasty, but at least they should be strong. I don't think he works with lugs though if thats your thing. I still have to reccomend him though because he really is a super guy that works crazy hours to make even one time customers really happy.