Originally Posted by mtnbke

I've just got to ask:

What in your mind is ostensibly a good enough reason to warrant switching from the 622 wheel size to 584? Challenge yourself to stop calling it 650b, as that is cultishly connotative in a way that maybe hypnotizing you. Instead just call the wheel size by its proper ISO dimension. Realistically, the difference between a 622 and a 584 wheel is only 19mm on the only radius that matters (hub down). Jan Heine and otherd in a largely intellectually dishonest exercise wanted revive the irrelevant dead wheel size.

I've never met a single 650b cult member that was happy with 584 as a wheel size without having to call it 650b. The wheels don't roll as fast, don't roll over road imperfections as well, and in general are just a nuanced dead end for cyclists to obsess over. Fools gold plain and simple.