I got a pair of bibs and don't like them. I have the beer gut going but never had a problem with a decent pair of regular shorts staying in place--which is very odd, as regular non-bike shorts always like to migrate downward. But not bike shorts. Never had a problem with plumbers cleavage either. So the bibs are relegated to the back of the drawer. Maybe I got the wrong pair. Maybe I'll like them after losing the gut. But for now... don't like.