Originally Posted by FBinNY

In any case, it might help is the OP observed his position on the bike while riding. When I'm working with someone one on one, I take them to the strip mall and have them look at reflections of themselves in storefront windows. Sometimes I'll ride next them the reflections superimpose and they can compare their position to mine.

Originally Posted by leavingsuburbia

Thats a great idea, window reflections of my posture, I think I know my positioning but have never seen it reflected back, thank you for that thought.