One of the LBSs that a friend of mine manages, did a 4th of July ride from their shop in New Tampa to an IPA brewery in Plant City and back. It was a total of 40 miles but I dropped off about a mile from my house and rode home. I only got in 37 miles but that was OK because there were a couple of riders in this group of 20 that were really making me nervous. They couldn't figure out where in the group they wanted to ride or what side of the line they wanted to stay in.