Originally Posted by
MarcusT
I Just came back from a cycle tour of the Italian Dolomites. I have always felt a kinship with cyclists be they MTBers, Roadies, tourers, until now.

Going over those mountain passes, these "purists" think they are in the Giro d'Italia. At every pass, (highest point across the mountain) the roads were littered with gel packs, energy bar wrappers and other such trash only a cyclist would leave. It was disgusting.
Never again will I feel any camaraderie for these people who feel great about themselves, bringing their crap uphill, but are too tired or concentrated to bring the wrappers downhill.
Next will come the video cameras and recordings to send to the authorities
Eh, that kind of behavior isn't limited to roadies. I've seen MTBers, tourists, backpackers etc. leave a metric ton of trash behind too. IME when people get particularly vocal in their complaints about a lot of this stuff, they're usually about as bad as everyone else without realizing it.
Originally Posted by
Modenaro
I see them everyday. Where every ride is "Tour De France". Then there are the super loud talkers, thinking anyone else cares about their conversation's. Or the over the top hand signals with loud command folks. I am not even sure they know they are being laughed by the general population and most others on bikes. Am pretty sure nobody here falls into that category.
Some of those hand signals are done for good reason in group rides. I can't say much about the loud talking, but wind noise *is* a thing if you're going faster than a crawl. I don't talk much when riding but I'll still signal if there's crap on the road and all that if I'm in front of a group.