Originally Posted by
San Rensho
No, the way you set the set back on a saddle is by starting with the saddle pushed forward, then slowly moving it back until you can take your hands off the drops and you don't fall forward. That's the correct seat setback.
Bicycle positioning is all about feel, you have to ride a bicycle, you have to know how the bicycle should, feel. following some moronic computer program is just wrong.
Originally Posted by
deapee
My allez with 8cm saddle-to-bar drop is much more forward (relative to bb) than my Fuji. Although my Fuji has a good bit of drop compared to most endurance bikes. It is, however, a good bit longer. One has a romin and the other a romin evo which is longer.
So I think the answer to my question is that set-back can depend on bar drop, and ultimately depends on the correct balance point for a particular bike and individual.
I would definitely agree that getting balance correct has more impact on riding comfort than trying to blindly follow KOPS (although it might be a reasonable starting point).