Thanks for the info... The Ritchey is basically $2700. Looks like I might be able to get a Jamis Renegade Exploit for around $1700. Is it worth it to pay $1000 more for the Ritchey? The Ritchey has everything Ritchey on it and Ultegra. The Jamis is 23.75 lbs and the Ritchey is 22.7 lbs, so not a huge weight difference... But with the $1K saved, I could upgrade the Jamis' wheelset...