Thanks again for the responses... Shoota, I think I want to stick with steel, so the Renegade Expert would be out. Seems like the Jamis has more of a relaxed geometry than the Ritchey (it's more of a gravel bike than a cross bike). Since I won't be racing with it, I'm leaning towards the Jamis. I'm pretty sure I could live with the stock wheelset for a while and just keep the money I save. I saw one in person and it looks better than it does in pics.