Originally Posted by Bonzo Banana

People should realise both Tern and Dahon are so called performance folding bikes more inline with racing bikes and have lower weight limits. The EN/ISO 4210 standard seems to pretty much have normal bikes at 120kg and mountain bikes at 136kg but racing bikes tend to be stated as short life performance products and that seems pretty much what Tern and Dahon are aiming for. Personally that's reason enough for me to avoid these brands. I'm rather have a strong frame over a slightly lighter one.