Old 08-07-17 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by FlashBazbo
Of course, there have been disc brake equipped road bikes for some time. Generally, they were touring rigs, cyclocross or gravel bikes. They were heavy. They generally used MTB brake calipers. And they weren't closely related to the same manufacturers' racing bikes.

But now that's changing. The 2018 BMC SLR01 Disc is an example. And I'm in the market for a bike with "racing" bike lightness and handling but equipped with disc brakes.

Has anyone experienced the new crop of light, disc brake equipped road bikes? What have you ridden? What did you think?
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
To a guy who said he rides mountain descents, and is asking what new bikes have discs, not whether he should get them.
Please highlight in the post to which I responded, where he said anything about “mountain descents.” Thanks.

Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
Why do you people feel compelled to do that?
Originally Posted by FlashBazbo
Has anyone experienced the new crop of light, disc brake equipped road bikes? What have you ridden? What did you think?
Originally Posted by Abe_Froman
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but I went back and read the original post. Frankly, I feel like all of the discussion here has been on topic. The OP specifically asked: "Has anyone experienced the new crop of light, disc brake equipped road bikes? What have you ridden? What did you think?"

People chiming in to say, essentially, that they have ridden them, but were underwhelmed, or not needed for typical riding, would IMO certainly fall within the category of relevant discussion. And again...that's not even my view. I think they're a nice addition if you constantly ride in crappy weather.
As for myself, I never said anything like that. I responded directly to you. You asked
Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
^ Unless you're riding in the pro tour, why would you want ancient brakes?
I replied,
Originally Posted by Maelochs
Because they weigh less and work as well?
And for anyone not doing frequent mountain descents or riding in the rain, they do.

I just got a disc road bike. I would not get another one ... at least not until the brakes come down in weight to be comparable to dual-calipers. With the possible exception of a possible aero build, where I would sacrifice the poorer aero performance of discs so I could get CF rims, which I would not use with rim brakes.

See, I am exactly the poster the highly biased shower sacks do Not want posting here ... because I am not biased, I am honest.

If the OP had started out mentioning mountain descents or rainy riding, response would have been different. However, he failed to specify ... and for general riding,. all but the fanatics think rim brakes are as good enough.

Some folks claim rim brakes are always better, just as some folks claim discs are always better.

Neither group seems to comprehend that “better” is a relative term, which varies by situation. When it is raining, I take out my disc bike. in that situation it is better. If I plan to do a long ride with a lot of climbing, I take out my CF rim-braked bike. in that situation, it is better.

And all of that is my, and only my, estimation.

People behave in such idiotic ways over these simple topics.

The matter is choosing the right tool for the job.

The OP did not properly describe the job in his first post, and then a bunch of disc fanatics tried to tell everyone who said that for most cycling jobs, rim brakes were a better choice, that they were delusional. Hard to imagine how that would cause problems, eh? “Ancient” brakes? What, Fred Flintstone foot-on-the-floor brakes? Oh, no ... dual caliper rim brakes, which are less than a decade old. I guess you must be about four times ancient, yourself, eh?

If people want rational discussion, they need to stay rational. If people want specific answers, they need to ask specific questions.

The OP asked what people who owned new disc-brake-equipped bikes, what they thought about those bikes. Then a bunch of people answered Specifically that question, and other folks got upset.

And then those folks blamed the accused the people who responded accurately and precisely to the OP’s question, of giving answers the OP didn’t ask for. Yeah, super-clear reasoning abilities demonstrated there.

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