Originally Posted by
elcruxio
Interestingly when Europeans do something innovative, it's evolution and not really innovative, but when Americans do it, it's suddenly adopting new innovation and stuff. I smell a bit of confirmation bias but let's go on.
Sports evolving new tactics or new equipment for the same basic sport is evolution. I could have given examples of new hockey sticks or goalie equipment but that's absurd. Sorry sparky. A new sport would be invention.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
Well, there may be other reasons apart from weather. The Spanish coast is chock full of greenhouses while they still have perfect weather for growing stuff. I'd wager that in the current state of the world it would be beneficial for everyone if farming practices were made more effective regardless of weather conditions.
They don't have perfect weather, they lack water or in many places have brackish water. 0 for 2, but yes, more and more stable food is a good thing with so many people. But seriously, why are you even saying this as an argument? It has nothing to do with anything that has been discussed, and just shows you are only arguing to argue.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
Not sure if you're pulling the hitler card here, but comparing atrocities usually doesn't end well. But it is a fact that German rocketry had a massive effect in the US space program.
hitler card? WTF are you talking about? Germany single-handedly advanced aviation and rocketry by decades, for the
entire world, like I said, "albeit for a horrible cause." Holy smokes, seriously you are showing that you just want to argue for the sake of it by using falsities.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
You need to realize that there is actually quite a bit of immigration in the EU but it's mostly from one EU-country to another. There are also vast amounts of immigrants from outside the EU as well, like the middle east, northern africa, former colony nations of some EU countries etc. It's also not to do with embracing new ideas as it is with the fact that the US opened their doors to immigrants because they needed cheap, borderline slave labor to do jobs left vacant by actual slavery being abolished. That's not idealistically embracing the new, it was a cold business decision. Before that it was to fill out areas etc.
I'm sorry, but this is totally ignorant and wrong. There's literally no point in saying anything more. With this post you have proven that your opinion is worthless in terms of having any validity outside of your own mind, though you are entitled to that of course.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
Now that the US has no real need for immigration any more the innovation and immigration embracing people of the US have chose a president who is just like them and willing to accept immigrants and new innovations. No wait, was I talking about some separate reality...
Again, wrong and has nothing to do with anything that has been said.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
And the US has the constitution and bill of rights which are in many European minds just plain ridiculous and harmful. What is a law that cannot be changed, that cannot evolve with the times? The US constitution cannot answer the challenges of modernity and the fact that it will not be changed to reflect current times is holding back the developement of the US legal and cultural system It's like having the bible as a constitution.
In comparison some EU countries still have royalty, but by changing the constitution they have been rendered figure heads of the nation and why not?
Again, totally wrong.
1) There are constitutional amendments.
2) Every political scientist pretty much unanimously agrees that the Constitution and Bill of Rights are in the top three of the most important political documents ever created. The only other document that could even be considered is the communist manifesto. Both of which completely changed the world. Anyone that views the Constitution as ridiculous or dangerous obviously doesn't deserve having their opinion heard.
3) Sorry, but holding on to royal families shows a country-wide political and social idiocy, nothing else.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
That paragraph has nothing else of value but if you were not talking about a people that's predominantly white that statement would be considered deeply racist. However now it's just plain untrue, insulting and harmfully stereotypical. The germans have a reputation because of the Brits ragging on them, but it takes a sense of nuance and sense of humour as well as some experience to realize that all of those stereotypes about germans aren't actually true at all. The Germans are actually well know for their protesting, breaking rules for the common good as well as constantly developing new stuff.
I'm sorry, but it is true. It is also true the Germans are very efficient and value that highly, but that's not racist right? You have never worked with Germans, nor do you have family that works for a German company do you??? In WWII it was well known that without their commanding officers, the Germans were worthless because they couldn't think for themselves. The social stigma and norms in Germany are incredibly strong and few Germans go outside them. Just look at crossing the street for example. You won't see people doing it when they're not supposed to.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
That first part of bankrupcy actually has more to do with the fact that in the States it doesn't mean anything. You can default and you're debt free afterwards. In Europe a personal bankrupcy is not as common or even possible depending on the country and going over debt means you'll be in debt for a long time. Whether or not that is a good thing or not is not really in the scope of this discussion.
Again, ignorant and wrong.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
The ethnic restaurant comment makes me think whether you've even ever visited Europe. While I've never had trouble finding ethnic restaurants while living in the EU, it needs to be kept in mind that the EU has a pretty nice food culture of it's own and those cultures also mix and match between countries. Having some of our own food culture may eat away some of the ethnic stuff, but not as much as to make it hard to find.
Sorry, based on my (and other's) experiences within the EU. It sounds like you are so thoroughly blind to other places that you are not even aware of your blindness.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
My whole point is that your whole point is absurd and based on stereotypes which in turn are based on nothing at least in the modern world. You cannot quantify or qualify your claims. We can start comparing innovations but there's really no point. Both continents do great stuff these days.
Again, you are totally wrong. My whole point is based on personal experience and factual data, contrary to you. Have you ever lived in the U.S.? Yes, both continents do great stuff. Americans are still far more rapid to embrace new things.
Originally Posted by
elcruxio
As to what my peers think about the US? Most of my friends see it as an ultra conservative dystopia with vast inequality between different demographics, men and women etc. Then there's the dysfunctional justice system, corrupted politics, violent militarized police force, divide between the rich and poor, people not being cared for when they are sick or leaving them in debt after they have been cared for., Trump.
First, that is not what I asked. Second, those are wrong and just stereotypes you heard from somewhere, but lets compare countries just for fun:
US has 350-355 million people. It is 9,833,520km2. GDP is $18.75 trillion. That is third in the world for population and third or fourth for size and first for GDP.
Finland has 5-6 million people. It is 338km2. GDP is $237 billion. That is 1.4% of the US population and .0034% of size and %1.23 of the US GDP.
Finland is one of the most homogeneous and least ethnically diverse countries in Europe.
US is one of the least homogeneous and most ethnically diverse countries in the world.
Compared to the top 10 most populous countries, the US is by far the best in your list of stereotypical grievances. Compared to the top 20 it would probably be number 2, 3 or perhaps 1 in most categories behind Japan and Germany.
You cannot compare a country like Finland to the US. Its totally absurd. There are differences and problems that arise in scale of diversity of religion, heritage, wealth, beliefs, etc. which you simply do not have to deal with. Even then, like I said, the US still does exceptionally well for its size.
Honestly you sound like a extreme left millennial with little to no real world experience just spouting off whatever you believe to be true without any thought, research, or experience regarding whether or not it may actually be reality.
