Originally Posted by Abe_Froman

I understand the comparison you're making, but I don't think it is valid. (I watched the first episode yesterday, BTW...very good).

You can experience and describe accurately the mood of a population. Testing has shown that human perception is NOTORIOUSLY unreliable in the area of sports.

And even if I DO go ride a Willier, and I am measurably faster...that in no way impacts the stiffness discussion. Was I faster because of aero properties of the bike? Tires? Wheels? Or simply being more excited helped me put out more power? Or maybe I unconsciously adopted a more aero position on the bike because I THOUGHT the bike was faster, and adjusted my style to suit the bike. Perhaps I was faster on the Willier, in SPITE OF the stiffness working to slow me down.

Frankly, nobody knows, you, other on the forum, myself, and some much more informed people in the industry included.