Thread: 20”or 16”?
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Old 10-15-17 | 05:23 PM
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Bikes: 1963 Schwinn, EuroMini Urbano, Magnum Premium 48, Brompton S6L, Tokyo Bike Mini-Velo

Originally Posted by edelay
I commuted for 4 years on a 20" folder with a Nexus 8 in it. Over the last year or so, I've switched to a Dahon Curve "D8" with Sturmey Archer X-RF8 in it with 16" (305) wheels. My backup bike is a Cirus Smart (think Dahon Dove) with 14" wheels, so I'm coo-coo for small wheels.

My thoughts bikes with 16" wheels:
- the ride is a bit rougher with 16" wheels, but this can be partially compensated for with fatter tires such a Schwalbe Big Apples
- they feel more responsive or twitchy... some say unstable, but I like the responsiveness, especially for urban commuting
- Schwalbe Kojak slicks aren't available in 305 size, but you can get Primo Comets. Note that there is a Kojak for the 349 wheels (Brompton)
- studded winter tires aren't available in 305 size, but you you get them in the 349 wheels (Brompton)
- bikes with 16" wheels can have a shorter cockpit that bikes with 20" wheels. I'm 5' 7" and the Curve is just right for me after lowering the handlepost. Bromptons do have a longer cockpit
- often have narrow rear spacing, which means fewer choices for internally geared hubs.
- the smaller fold means you might be able to pack it in a standard airline case without disassembly

Here is my experience taking the Dahon Curve to Europe in a suitcase
Dahon Curve D3 in airline legal suitcase, North American to Europe

Note that the Downtube minis with belt drives are the Nexus 8 and the Alfine 11 models. The Sturmey Archer 8 has a chain.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Great info, and great travel info too. Thank you for the detailed reply.

“Coo-coo for small wheels”. I get that.

Rode Vespas and (to a far lesser extent) motorcycles for many years. Prefer scooters and have done some fairly extensive travelling on 10” and 12” wheeled Vespas!

A little bit more about that if you care to squander a few minutes of your time on that....
http://gogogordy1.wixsite.com/scooter-aficionado

Yes the DT 8H or Mini are the 2 I’m deciding between...,as mentioned I have 2 20” folders (as does the Missus) already and a tighter fold is as attractive as the Belt/igh drivetrain. So many choices!
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