Firstly,
Let me apologize in advance for another boring "which bike is better" thread. To all who plan to reply, "Try them both and get the one that feels right!" - I can't. I have exhausted every local dealer in my area (Boston, MA) and no one has anything close to my size (61 cm). I never realized it would be so difficult to try a bike before deciding on buying it. Let me start by listing the reasons I have narrowed my search to these two fine steeds. Both are:
1. steel, drop bar bikes with clearance for wider (at least 38mm tires)
2. priced around $1600
3. disc brakes (both have mechanical - Pro Max for the All City and Spyre for the Kona Rove
4. 1x11 drivetrains (I currently ride a Schwinn Voyageur 3x7 and never change out of the middle 42t ring
5. rack and fender mounts
While I love the paint job on the new Macho Man - check it out if you haven't yet -
Macho Man | All-City Cycles , the spec leaves something to be desired. Paying $100 more than the Rove for a bike with inferior disc brakes seems silly, even if the frame shows more of an artist's touch.
Does anyone own one of these bikes? Would anyone who is more adept than I am at reading geometry charts care to share any insight?
They seem to share much of the same geometry:
AC
Size 61cm
Head Tube Angle (A) 72.5
Seat Tube Angle (B) 72.5
Top Tube Length (C) 605
Seat Tube Length (D) 635.3
Chainstay Length (E) 435
Bottom Bracket Drop (F) 70
Fork Offset (G) 45
Total Fork Length (H) 395
Head Tube Length (I) 200
Standover (J) 880
Wheelbase (K) 1059
Stack (L) 633.4
Reach (M) 405.3
Handlebar Width 44
Stem Length 120
Crank Arm Length 175
SIZE 58
1 ST LENGTH 580
2 TT LENGTH 599
3 REACH 400
4 STACK 630
5 STANDOVER 840
6 HT ANGLE 71.5
7 HT LENGTH 189
8 ST ANGLE 72.5
9 CS LENGTH 435
10 BB DROP 70
11 BB HEIGHT 282
12 WHEELBASE 1064
13 FRONT CENTER 639
14 FORK LENGTH 405
15 FORK OFFSET 45
The obvious difference I see is that the Macho Man has a more level top tube, creating the various geometrical differences highlighted. Head tube angle on the Macho Man is also 1% steeper. Any and all comments appreciated!