Originally Posted by
pickettt
but you need to teach the guys out on the ride.
Nope, not on every ride. I contend that not every ride needs to be instructional. If you jump into a group ride on a Tuesday with a bunch of strangers and find yourself over your head, you can expect to get yelled at. The ride shouldn't have to slow down and give you lessons.
At what point can a group just ride fast without having to give lessons to any new rider that jumps in uninvited?