Old 01-11-18, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by FBinNY
Assumption no.3 in my post immediately above yours.
I don't think it's an assumption.

My one sentence makes the issue much more clear.

The whole closing-angle stuff is a red-herring. And based on a lot of speculation. The closing-angle argument assumes the cars didn't really stop.

Even if there wasn't a pillar, the drivers might not have noticed the cyclists. Heck, the might not even been able to notice a car.

The point of requiring a stop is to eliminate the issue of things like closing angles.

What other accidents have occurred there?

Now of this means cyclists should not drive defensively.

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