The tights arrived today (Elite Thermo w/o chamois). Very well made, and (wait for it) - they FIT me! Nice long legs that are big enough around, plus those stirrups - no more fighting between ankle & crotch; no more bare skin above the bootie. I can tell that a cyclist developed the pattern by how well they fit when in riding position - tried them on the trainer briefly. As long as they're warm out on the road, then I'm a sold customer. Nice to get what you pay for once in a while.
BTW, their Windtex booties are nice too.