Yes, I was trying to be nice to the others on this thread by deleting "thug". You're still a thug, and it's still stupid to tell people it'll work to crowd the old M bars with the new shifters. The old setup works, but mixing old and new won't. Even with my small hands I wouldn't be comfortable with less room in the grip area and that's what I explained. But you decided to join this thread with your ALL CAPS BIG KNOWLEDGE of how you know everything about Bromptons and only you should be listened to.