Originally Posted by
rpenmanparker
It is a shame that the idea of finished build stack and reach has not become more widespread...with algorithms for determining this from frame stack and reach and knowledge of the cockpit components. Actually for complete bikes, the maker could easily provide the finished bike stack and reach once standard definitions of that were agreed to. Now that would really simplify bike buying.
yeah, but if you knew what you were getting ... you might get it elsewhere. How can you be convinced to buy according the the decal on the down tube if you actually know about the bike?