Old 01-26-18 | 05:33 PM
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avole
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Originally Posted by Ninety5rpm
Blaming a r@pe victim for dressing inappropriately is the quintessential example of "blaming the victim". It's not extreme.

"One example of a sexist allegation against female victims of sexual assault is that wearing provocative clothing stimulates sexual aggression in men who believe that women wearing body-revealing clothes are actively trying to seduce a sexual partner. Such accusations against victims stem from the assumption that sexually revealing clothing conveys consent for sexual actions, irrespective of willful verbal consent. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victim_blaming

Labeling discussion about how the victim's behavior contributed to the tragedy as "blaming the victim" is not making the point that the truck driver has at least partial responsibility for what happened, which I don't see anyone here denying. Certainly not me. It's going far beyond that. It's suggesting the cyclist's behavior did not contribute at all to the collision, and we shouldn't even talk about it (much less learn from it).

Perhaps you didn't realize it, but you're effectively saying that suggesting riding alongside trucks increases likelihood of right hooks is victim blaming like suggesting that wearing provocative clothing increases likelihood of r@pe.

Very different.
Absolute nonsense, that’s simply your fancy. Trying to twist things using extreme examples contributes little to the discussion. It’s a shames that subjects like this turn into endless streams of self justification. It would be nice if’ for once, you could admit there were possibilities than those you propse, and used serious debate to argue the points.

Anyway, that’s my last contribution to advocacy and safety. You’ll find me over at folding bikes or road bikes. Apologies for being so off topic, mods/admins, maybe it is me simply not understanding a part of US culture.
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