Said it a few weeks ago, but here is the first 12 speed road grouppo. Some new stuff going on there. Direct mount derailleur, campy direct mount rim brakes and 12 speed that is compatible without new wheels. Also their new wheels are pretty rad looking too. https://www.bikerumor.com/2018/04/09...train-details/ Also I'm expecting more news from sea otter this year, but we shall see.