You are right of course. I do take a bit of grief over the saddles, and the old heavy pedals, but they work for me. I've been riding since the late 70's, and tried about everything out there, and finally at my advanced age found that the Koobi works. I must have 10 or 15 sets of Look pedals, red, white, black, rainbow, carbon, aluminium, plastic, they all still work.

Mrballistic, I hear you may be joining the Santana Stylus club soon?