Yeah, and there are other examples of alleged infringement that turned out to be very muddled. Mad Magazine's Alfred E. Newman character is an example. Turns out the caricature was probably derived from a 19th century caricature that was long since in the public domain.

But I'm not talking about any gray zone stuff here. The Chinese are directly and unequivocally and undeniably ripping off graphic designs, line for line, dot for dot, color for color.

And, as I mentioned above, many US and European business representatives have talked about being coerced into compromising their trade secrets and source code as a condition of doing business in China. The reason we don't hear about this more often is those businesses will become persona non grata in China if they complain publicly. So we only hear from the businesses who've already withdrawn from China, or from reps who are no longer with those companies.