Good news and bad news.

The fixed cup and shell is out. I did like i said...cut grooves with dremel in 2 spots and smacked the grooves with a flat chisel. it still took tremendous force but with my breaker bar and cheater pipe the came free.

The nonfixed cup is still stuck.

I cleaned out the bb of debris and threaded in the fixed side to have the spindle for guidance with my bolt holding the tool in place. No dice. I guess i keep on soaking. I would figure the fixed cup might be a bit looser than the nonfixed side and i got lucky. I am afraid now i wont be able to get the nonfixed side out. IF those teeth/splines get eaten up by the tool and strip.....i am likely screwed.

i will give it another good soak and some light heat.

This frame is an ugly toilet of a frame cosmetically but is great otherwise......and after all this....i want to ride it. Sure i could go purchase a different one and even a full bike for about $250 of the same model and way way better shape......but why?