gunnar will be quality tubing thats butted to match the frame's size.

soma smoothie is made with Tange Prestige, but they dont advertise the butting details and the devil is in the details. Also, Tange now is not tange from 30 years ago. Just a clarification.

The Kona Roadhouse has a 64cm stack height.

ill plug the Black Mountain cycles road frameset. Its inexpensive, well finished, uses quality heat treated butted tubing, and will be close to all but the most boutique of large steel frames. A carbon fork looks sharp on the frsmeset too.
i have a gravel frame and absolutely love it. Fantastic price for quality.


i just completed a handbuilt lugged steel frame that is 65cm. The frame and fork are right at 3000g +/- 50g. It will build up to be just under 21# when complete.
a carbon fork would cut almost 1.2# off the total, for what its worth.
i used Columbus Zona tubing that is .7/.5/.7 butted main tubes, .7 seat stays, and .8/.6 chainstays.
mentioning all this so you have a realistic idea of what steel will weigh.