Originally Posted by
Maelochs
I am not sure that the size, the model designation, or the engine power are in any way related to the causes of the increase in pedestrian deaths.
Originally Posted by
mr_bill
In fact, when someone driving a LARGE HEAVY vehicle hits a pedestrian, they are FAR more likely to severely injure or kill that pedestrian compared to the same person driving a SMALLER LIGHTER vehicle. For the several reasons pointed out in the article.
The article did not say more people were being fatally hit versus people who were being hit and surviving in past years … did you see that information? In that article?
Yes, we all understand physics … so please don’t be a disrespectful Richard, eh? We all understand that something bigger travelling faster hits harder … but the article didn’t say that collisions were the same and fatalities were higher … or did you read that?
As I read it, more people were getting hit and killed. I did not see where the article claimed that the same number were being hit and more were being killed.
Originally Posted by
Maelochs
Also … is speed really a contributor?
Originally Posted by
mr_bill
In fact, when someone driving a vehicle at a higher speed hits a pedestrian, they are FAR more likely to severely injure or kill that pedestrian compared to the same person driving that vehicle at a slower speed.
Again, it is pretty ignorant for you to assume only you took a physics class.
My question is, and the data does not specify, if there were more collisions because of speed, or if the number of collisions was the same and more peop-le were dying. In that case, the question is valid … is speed (or vehicle size) a contributor to More Collisions with pedestrians?
And if you look at where the collisions are happening …. Arterial roads? Speed is Always high on arterial roads (major multi-lane traffic routes) so if there are more collisions with pedestrians on those roads, where the speeds are always high enough that even a motorcycle hitting a pedestrian would probably fatal … then speed isn’t likely causing more fatalities …. More collisions are likely creating more fatalities.
Getting hit by a Toyota Corolla traveling a t 55 mph is not notably more survivable than getting hit by a Ford Explorer traveling at 65 mph. 3000 lbs of metal moving 55 mph is plenty forceful.
Originally Posted by
Maelochs
The main issue seems to be that pedestrians are getting onto the road surface without sufficient awareness.
Originally Posted by
mr_bill
Wow. Where did that come from other than out of thin air?
no, it came from the fact that more pedestrians are getting hit, apparently.
As I said above about arterial roads … and also, did you see how many were getting hit while crossing the roads not at crosswalks?
And in any case … A Bigger Car moving faster ias Much More Noisy … so a pedestrian has to be a Lot More Stupid to walk in front of one, as compared to how stupid a pedestrian has to be, to walk in front of a smaller quieter car.
You follow all that? I can explain further if needed.