I rode the Suncoast trail yesterday. First time in 4-5 years. I took the Lynskey for its first ride there. The Litespeed has been there several dozen times. Rode from SR50 to the north end (12 miles of "Florida hills" each way). Did a bit of exploring and ended up riding 30.8 miles. I'll admit now that the trail whipped my butt. When I got home my shoulders and neck were sore. This morning I compared the saddle/handlebar height between the Litespeed and the Lynskey. The Lynskey bars were a little less than a cm lower than the Litespeed so I put the last spacer below the handlebar to get the bar up a bit higher. Hope that will do the trick. I'll find out on the next long ride.