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Old 05-30-18 | 07:00 AM
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Tend to agree with OP that 20+mph avg requires favorable conditions. I also rarely get passed on my somewhat hilly 16 mi one-way commute where I've improved to 16mph in the morning and 17mph evening. The non-assisted faster cyclists usually ride without any bags so I think most are probably riding recreationally. There are definitely much stronger cyclists than me but I generally don't encounter them commuting.
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