A question for those who in this thread have stated that there is a 5 pound difference in weight between Hi-ten and Cromoly frames: Have you weighed the stripped frames? If you have, what are the details of the frames? There are many possible details, but none of them, even stacked up, would seem to yield a 5 lb difference. Yesterday I stripped and weighed the frames, sans forks, of two old Treks. A 1976 TX200 49cm that is all Hi-tensile and has butting, was 5.2 lbs. A 1982 model 610 56cm that is 531 double butted main tubes with Ishiwata Magny10 stays weighed half a pound less at 4.7 lbs. That's ONE HALF POUND difference.

Yes, the smaller frame was heavier, and the bigger frame was only butted 531 main tubes. But to say there could be 2 pounds difference because of Hi-ten vs Cro-Moly is overstating the case, let alone the absurdity of 5 pounds. Good grief. A general, guessed at, five pounds is what frames WEIGH. Let's not state weights unless we do the weighing. Just a suggestion.