Originally Posted by
Ironfish653
I think we're discussing two different kinds of falls.
The original intent of the thread was the 0-mph can't-get-my-foot-out-at-the-stoplight tumble or, 'Tombay' if you will. Also happens when you 'stall out' on a steep hill; happens often in MTB'ing, esp if you ride clipless. There's always a little bit of warning, so you can set up. I try to lean away from the fall, so the first thing that hits is the 'cheek' of my hip; Keeping your hands on the bar, elbows in, and roll from your butt to he back of your shoulder. It's not that hard to do, you just don't let go of the bike.
Yeah, there's a bit of warning, when the bike shifts funny under you. Then -bam- you're on the ground, no perception of time. You may have the memory of those couple seconds, you might not, but those couple seconds aren't happening in your brain as you're going over.
And it still doesn't discount that the shoulder is ridiculously easy to seriously injure and ridiculously hard to get right again from even a minor injury. The shoulder is the most complex joint in the body, which means there's a lot of stuff in there that can go wrong.