thanks for the info. About 4 years ago I was in the toupe rbx expert and loved it. Then couldn’t find it anymore. Now I’ve had about 5 different saddles and think I need to go back to the Toupe. Perhaps I’m reminiscing to longingly but it really was the best for me. I’ll definitely say that Specialized does a great job with their contact points, shoes and saddles have so far been perfect for me.