Originally Posted by Campag4life

Robby, I am sorry but I haven't. I have only ridden the Ti hollow rail versions which are mid level. I have ridden Toupes with different levels of padding and I find less padding to be more comfortable.
You can perform a search but I believe the S-works Toupe which is a $300 saddle and why I would never ride it with carbon rails and carbon seat pan, word is its stiff. The thing about saddles tho is...some really like stiff because a spongy saddle can cause perineum irritation due to soft tissue sinking in. Its kind of like Brooks saddles in that they are pretty rock hard and yet one would think they wouldn't be comfortable but they are generally.

To me, carbon is more about weight and more money...but...there maybe a comfort element there as well. But this maybe good or bad and maybe even rider specific.

I believe with saddles is...best strategy is buy used off ebay where a rider rode it once or twice and didn't like it. That way you can flip it without too much money lost if you don't like it. Paying retail for saddles isn't my idea of a good practice. Ebay is the gene pool for saddles in my experience. Just buy right if you can.
Good luck

Originally Posted by Bryan C.

This is where I am stuck. I can't seem to find the right balance so I am basically left with changing saddles. The toupe has a more pronounced relief channel and I am hoping that will help.

But you do make a good point about buying a lightly used saddle on Ebay or Craigslist if you aren'tsure what will work. Some good deals come around if you keep your eye out for them.