Originally Posted by
MeanSekine
Yeah that's definitely something I'll keep in mind while riding. I think it's just something I do on the trainer because there's no road vibration, bumps, etc that I need to absorb. When I'm out on the road I have a bend and my torso is slightly lower.
I've made the adjustments that were suggested and it does seem to feel better, but I haven't been out on the road with it yet. I believe the reach changed by almost 4cm so that should help quite a lot.
I asked DannoXYZ to edit his iconic Numb Hands post, putting the photos back in. These photos show what it's supposed to look like, and also explains how to avoid the dreaded numb hands:
Numb Hands
Those women are doing it right. Note bent elbows, elbows in front of or nearly in front of knees. Note in the 2 photos of the Timex rider, one with almost straight arms, the other elbows well bent, that the angles between upper arm and torso seem identical. That's normal and by far the most comfortable for long distance riding.
'97 Tour videos have good shots of the positioning of the young Jan Ullrich who climbed almost entirely in the saddle and whose fit was optimized for that: