...if you teach yourself to paint them, most of the higher end maker frames with crappy paint and some surface rust issues can be had cheaply.
But the whole painting thing is time consuming and labor intensive, so they should be pretty cheap. Plus the stickers will set you back 40 or 50 bucks.

It was the only way I could get onto a Richard Sachs in my size though. If that's important to you. Which it probably isn't.