Originally Posted by Lightingguy

With our small group, we’ve one guy who’s pace just always seems to be about a 1/2 mpg too quick for the start. Thus I curse and sweat for about 40 minutes till I’ve warmed up.

I did sit behind a buddies 30 year old daughter, she does spin class all winter and is a good rider, we let her pull a lot, will the rest of us wake up.

Originally Posted by Jim from Boston

I tried to get my son to ride with me prior to the driving age. When he was around 14 we did an approximately 10 mile ride that included Heartbreak Hill on the Boston Marathon route and he kvetched the whole way. A couple of years later it was no problem to do that ride to see his girlfriend ;-)

For his freshman year in college we bought him a bike for some low-mileage commuting, and much to my surprise he did some work at a bike co-op. This summer, at age 18, we did a ride again including Heartbreak Hill and I could barely keep up. My excuse was that he didn't give me enough time to warm up; his excuse was that his gears weren't working right.