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Old 08-24-18 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rhm
If you want meaningful comparisons of frame weights, you have to be sure you're comparing frames of the same size.
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For a while now I've been trying to remember to weigh any frame or fork I have in my hands that's completely bare of hardware. No BB cups, no seat post bolt, no headset.

I generally weigh frames bare except for the pressed-in parts: fork crown race, head tube bottom cup and head tube top race. I don't remove these parts unless they're overworn. Most of the frames I've bought with myself in mind are in the 60-63 cm range -- while frame size is obviously a factor, it's surprised me how little difference 3 cm of seat tube, head tube and stays seems to make.


Originally Posted by bikingshearer
My magic carpet weighs about 26.5 lbs. Things that make it that heavy include:

It is pretty darn big. 64cm x 61.5cm, both ctc, big;
It's made of Columbus SP, the thicker (and heavier) brother of SL, which is a good idea for 265lbs of me.
It's a mid-1960s Cinelli; Cino had them built pretty stout.

I have not weighed this one stripped down, but based on a 60cm Cinelli f/f/hs I just weighed (and which likely has SL tubing instead of SP) that came in at 6.8 lbs., the big boy as a f/f/hs almost certainly weighs 7 lbs or a fraction more.

Oh, and it rides like a dream.

I bought a Serotta frame that's 63 cm CTT; supposedly Columbus SLP and SL; it's heavier than an equivalent-sized PX10, and all but one other frame here; 3255 g, or about 7.2 lb. It looks light, though.
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