I ride with two different groups each week, one day riding with my spouse, and run other days. Tell you, though I am grateful to find the groups I did I miss the days, and nights, of solo riding. Solo is an entirely different experience, more meditational than competitive or social. Odd to read this thread, I was just thinking about adding in a 4th ride day in the week that's purely a solo experience. Short & fast or LSD. Whatever seems right at the time. That's the problem with a group ride, you're not riding your ride....