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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
I hear you and appreciate your voice, but your words would be much more powerful were you to add links to the studies to which you refer. Search words are tricky and not everyone had the permissions, inclinations, and ability to do a thorough search of the literature. Google always returns the most used links, which as you say are probably pharma-linked studies.

The research I've done shows unequivocal decreases in all-cause mortality for those on statins. Statins obviously do a lot more than simply reduce cholesterol, some of it seemingly good, some of it seemingly bad. However, and it's a big However on these forums, the general population getting longer life from statins is not us. We are not the general population. I'm personally probably in the top .1% in terms of fitness for my age. I do notice that in so many things I throw off little damages or illnesses that cripple or take half a year to get over for other people my age. Fitness, IMO, does make a huge difference in our general health. And thus I rather doubt the effectiveness of statins in treating those of us who maintain a high state of fitness. AFAIK there are no statin studies of folks like us.
I'm on my home computer, where I can copy and paste like a pro, so here are some links that show the downsides of statins -

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...ctiveness.aspx

https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-ma...effects-news#1

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-c...aid-for-years/

Statins Are the Greatest Medical Fraud of All Time: Study Reports - Gaia Health

https://saveyourheart.com/downloads/...-dangerous.pdf

There are plenty of other studies out there to look at. No doubt, some will give glowing reports of statins being a life-saver, which in some folks, is indeed possible. But I think the medical society is starting to take a real hard look at statins, and there over prescription, and whether they are worth the possible long term risks for otherwise healthy people. For that, I am glad. I also apologize for getting snarky about Linus Pauling. I admire his work on cholesterol, which by-the-way, continues today at I believe Oregon State U.. Alternatives are a good thing.
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