Originally Posted by
Giacomo 1
I'm on my home computer, where I can copy and paste like a pro, so here are some links that show the downsides of statins -
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...ctiveness.aspx
https://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-ma...effects-news#1
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-c...aid-for-years/
Statins Are the Greatest Medical Fraud of All Time: Study Reports - Gaia Health
https://saveyourheart.com/downloads/...-dangerous.pdf
There are plenty of other studies out there to look at. No doubt, some will give glowing reports of statins being a life-saver, which in some folks, is indeed possible. But I think the medical society is starting to take a real hard look at statins, and there over prescription, and whether they are worth the possible long term risks for otherwise healthy people. For that, I am glad. I also apologize for getting snarky about Linus Pauling. I admire his work on cholesterol, which by-the-way, continues today at I believe Oregon State U.. Alternatives are a good thing.
Thanks. I think most of us are on board with the idea that statins can have bad effects on our health. My cardio put my on a statin because of known heart disease and total cholesterol slightly over 200, though my LDL/HDL ratio was pretty good. The evidence that statins reduce coronary events is quite strong:
http://www.saofranciscoocupacional.c..._downloads.pdf
Statin therapy can safely reduce the 5-year incidence of major coronary events, coronary revascularisation, and stroke by about one fifth per mmol/L reduction in LDL cholesterol, largely irrespective of the initial lipid profile or other presenting characteristics. The absolute benefit relates chiefly to an individual’s absolute risk of such events and to the absolute reduction in LDL cholesterol achieved. These findings reinforce the need to consider prolonged statin treatment with substantial LDL cholesterol reductions in all patients at high risk of any type of major vascular event.
However I don't see that any of the links in your post back up your previous claims:
Originally Posted by
Giacomo 1
Really sorry to hear about your statin related issues.
I get angry when I see stories like yours. I believe these pills are poison. Someday some intrepid reporter or ex employee of a pharma company will blow the whistle and lift the veil of just how dangerous statins can be. If you look at truly independent studies, not those sponsored by big pharma or medical associations tied to them, you can see for yourself how utterly useless these pills are in preventing first heart attacks. You will also learn how dangerous they can be to not not only muscles and joints but also your heart, which is a muscle, not an organ. You will also learn the myth surrounding cholesterol, the no-cholesterol diets and the absolute vital role cholesterol plays in our health.
I'm off that poison now and I feel great again, not like the old decrepit man I felt like while on them. I was 52 but felt like 80. I to had terrible hip and elbow pain among other pains and a general unhealthy feeling everyday. I couldn't exercise, couldn't walk far, couldn't cycle much and the gym was struggle at best. Some days even work was painful. I wish you the best in your recovery from these poison pills.
I would not tell anyone to get off of statins and nobody should listen to me, but please do your research! Do not blindly follow the herd! Take back your health from these drug pushers...
All together, I feel that it's too bad that I can't take a statin and probably have a longer and healthier life. But apparently I and a large percentage of other at-risk people simply can't take them. It's well known in the medical community that statins have very complex effects and that they have many positive effects in reducing coronary events beyond simply changing cholesterol levels. These other effects are little understood, similar to the bad effects they have. Little understood. More research may some day enlighten us.