So I was able to attend the Giant demo day, compared to my Warbird, I was seated much higher on this bike, was weird to get used to, but wasn't a bad thing. The ultegra brakes and gears were just awesome, giant's carbon wheels felt great. I rode a mix of gravel, grass and road. If I was riding more road, I felt this bike was more of a road oriented bike then my Warbird. But after riding it, I ordered one!!! Very impressed with Giant so far and the specs for the price were much better then the new warbirds.