They feel about the same. Rock hard and solid. As compared to the Selle that I took off the LeMond, these are a world of difference. The Selle had padding or something. After 1/2 hour I would get numb and have "hot" seat. On both Brooks I can feel my sit bones, and after 1 hour any discomfort I feel is in the sit bone area, not with any of my male components. (This is nearly gone on the Pro - it is comfy for 3 hours+)

The Swallow is much more comfortable in the drops and on the hoods. The Pro was comfortable on the hoods and tops. I'm picking some aerobars we discussed in another post - so in a week or two I should know how comfortable the Swallow is on the bars. My guess is with the narrow nose, it will be fine.



The leather seems to be about the same thickness, and of the same quality. It seems harder, but this may because it hasn't been ridden. If you check my original pictures, the Swallow is "tied" underneath with a metal badge, and leather flaps. I think this may be helping in the stiffness department.