Originally Posted by
clengman
Tubus sells a ...
You'll save a bunch on Ortlieb+Tubus if you make a single large purchase (to minimize higher S&H cost, sometimes fixed vs proportioned to total cost or weight/volume) from certain Euro bike shops like
this one. Most Euro shops are not supposed to ship Ortlieb to USA by vendor agreement, some disregard for the $. Whichever Euro shop you may choose, make sure the billed amount does not include the significant VAT (~20%) which is supposed to be excluded from USA-bound orders. Most shops' ecommerce software deducts VAT amount after you have indicated your order's destination country. Note that your credit card/bank may add a small fee (3%?) for an international order.