Somewhere in the old guy forum or maybe it was the even older, old guy forum (65 - 85 of which I'm there) I said I'd post a couple of photos... I hope somebody starts a 85 to 100+ forum so I can feel a little bit younger. Since this is a Trek DS3 I did also posted these there after I had mentioned I would. Since I'm a newbie here I needed 10 posts before I was allowed attachments. Anyway the first one was taken in the back yard a month or so ago and the second one on one of my exercise / fitness rides a few days ago.