Originally Posted by
saddlesores
sorry, guess i growed up in a different time.

i just don't get the entitlement mentality where ya somehow feel you have a right to use someone else's property for without permission.

we might could argue the morality of stealing bread to feed your sick children, but this is a freakin' vacation...


Nobody is talking about breaking and entering, then sleeping in a stranger's bed without permission. Or poaching game on the property. Stealth campers I have met pick a spot in a neglected hedgerow or woodlot far from the owner's residence, if the owner actually even lives in the area or in that state. Or they camp on a highway right-of-way which is state property generally. I never said it was right, or that people should do it. I will say that some bicycle tourists do it all the time and somehow the Earth keeps turning. An unlucky/unwise few likely get busted for trespassing. Maybe they should learn to hide better next time. Or stop touring all together. Many of the "kids" I have met on bike tours were out for the summer on very limited funds, not very organized, late risers, and pretty smelly. I have a difficult time caring that they pull over in a poison ivy patch after dark and catch some sleep and collect some tics and Lyme disease.
I'm trying to remember if I ever stealth camped on a tour, and I have spent about 2.5 years total on the road. Maybe once in Maine. I did stiff a couple of state campsites with "iron ranger" money deposit thingies, mainly because I didn't have the $7 in change and I was not dropping a $20 in there. My conscience is not damaged.