Okay well then consider this. Cycling in the midwest sucks in general, cars run you off the road and the general public has no respect for those who are not sitting on the couch getting fatter. (Sorry a bit of a sour spot) Not to mention the fact that here in Michigan, the roads are so horrible from freezing/thawing, plows dont really work. They just take off the top layer of snow and leave the iced over pot-holes. I can't wait to get out of this state