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Old 01-22-06 | 06:36 PM
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From: Queanbeyan, Australia.
Originally Posted by Javelina
I see you're a WAP person. Hello. Here in the US, soybean production is primarily for livestock feed.

"Soybean meal is the main product from soybean processing, and is the primary
protein source in livestock feed. U.S. domestic soybean meal consumption
reached a record high of 28 million metric tons in 1997 (the latest data available),
an increase of 4 percent over 1996 and 32 percent over 1986. In the past decade,
annual consumption growth of soybean meal averaged 3.2 percent a year,
compared to an annual production growth of soybeans of 4.5 percent.
Total domestic soybean meal consumption accounts for about 80 percent of the
domestic soybean meal production, and this percentage has remained fairly
constant in the past decade. The USDA projects the annual consumption growth
will slow down to 2 percent in the coming decade, quite a drop from the above-
mentioned 3.2 percent for the past decade."

www.mda.state.mn.us/ams/soydieselreport.pdf

So, yes it is about meat. I know you think soy is the devil. I agree when it come to its use as animal feed. As a source of protien, I prefer legumes such as beans, chickpeas, dried peas and the like. Soy growers have a large war chest of money and are working very hard to find niches in the human food market. Soy is a good substitute for animal protien, it has been used for years in the orient and may be a good alternative to meat to some degree. Instead we are growing protien to feed to livestock to make more protien. It is a red flag if you're the one going hungry!

What about the rest of my post? No comment?
Yes Hello. What do I say about it. Well its just plain wrong and infact that first excert claiming that soy meal is the main product of soy production isn't even supported by your hyperlink so you should read your own refferences first.

Soy OIL is the primary product of soy production. Soy meal is whats left over from the production of oil and its a waste product actually. Rather than dumping it they sell it cheaply as animal feed so it has NOTHING to do with beef. Cattle are just being used as waste disposal units but they would much prefer to be eating good ol grass.

Soy oil is EVERYWHERE in proccessed food. If something has "vegetable oil" on the ingredient list but doesn't say what sort of vegetable oil it is then odds on its mostly soy oil with maybe small amounts of some other vegetable oil mixed in. So next time you go to buy some TVP realize that its a waste by product your eating that has been cleverly marketed as a health food. See, http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/promotion.html

So back to where I started. This anti meat, anti fat propoganda has nothing to do with the scientific facts which is why its still around despite the lack of scientific evidence. Its about a perception thats been spread that its a sin to consume animal foods and fats so the facts don't usualy have a chance to get in anywhere. Yes, don't feed cattle grains or soy beans. They should be eating grass anyway and you know the neat thing here is that grass grows quite well on pasture land that's not rich enough to support crops. Kind of neat realy so if you want to know what Gods way is then you had better STUDY what Gods way is first before making it up.

Regards, Anthony
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