Originally Posted by
Raxel
I am with the group 2, and actually think Peter and his believer were totally clueless.
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So here's my 2c
-IF peter outsourced the frame to Chinese titanium builders (which I think he should have) the frameset and fork would cost AT LEAST $2,000. Then the retail price of the full bike would be $4,000-$5,000 range.
-The only way to (somehow) meet the claimed price is to use cheaper material (cro-mo or aluminium) and mass produce in existing big factories - in short, let Dahon or Pacific make the bike.
I am not sure whether
a) Peter didn't know this
b) knew everything but lied to people to get money.
Your statement sounds rather like you are in group 1. But if the Helix proves to be really made of proper titanium (which I have no doubt it is/will be) I'd assume Peter would not deny it if you offered him to pay the 4000-5000$ you assume fair for the bike, of course plus a premium as it is made in Canada which results in higher cost for the workers involved. Why should he?