Originally Posted by
Maelochs
[MENTION=178042]ljsense[/MENTION] ---- you keep saying that rim brakes are so much easier to use with extreme precision for the most minimal applications. My question would be, how much have you practiced.
All your analogies mean nothing. Reality is where i ride, in a concrete, not conceptual world. it sounds like you have figured out a way to explain why a thing won't work---but refuse to accept the fact that it does.
Fact is, plenty of people find riding on discs to be just as easy as riding on rim brakes. if You cannot, then practice more. Stop inventing weird excuses based on turntables etc. ... it can be done, learn to do it.
You are essentially complaining that you can't make discs work with precision----though that might be your theory rather than your experience. Several others say they have---which makes me think you need to develop a finer touch.
Not suggesting that you look to solve your own issues as opposed to telling everyone that their own experiences are invalid .... at least not directly.
Here's my experience: cornering in a crit is something I've been doing for more than a decade, and I am still trying to maintain as much speed as possible through them. My goal is to not touch my brakes, stay within a few feet of the wheel ahead of me, and only have to do 500 watts instead of 580 or whatever coming out to get the good draft again. If I have to slow before a corner, I want to just barely back off. It's so tiring to ramp up that speed again and again. It's what makes crits tough. My experience is that my cork pads on well trued carbon wheels brush off a little speed, when needed, a little more gently and predictably than when I've tried it with disc brakes. I've only ridden 2 crits with disc brakes, but that is like five hundred corners or something.
I get that disc brakes are great. I love them. I have them on my mountain bike, my fat bike and my cross bike. I have outlined six reasons why I like rim brakes better for road racing. Trying to explain one of those reason -- why a rim brake might have a specific narrow performance edge -- is difficult. Forget about the record player or whatever you think sounded stupid, and just dive into corner after corner at 27 mph with people all around you. Yes, it certainly can be done with disc brakes with no real problem, I just think it's a hair better with rim brakes, in my opinion. If a dog or something ran out onto the course, I'm sure I'd wish I had disc brakes. But again, in my experience, crashes in crits happen so fast, great brakes usually aren't the salvation. What you really need is a lucky break.