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Old 02-28-19 | 05:21 PM
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berlinonaut
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Originally Posted by tds101
No,...I'm the "get off my lawn" guy,...

Forums are for discussion. If people don't like a person's comments, ignore them. I don't understand what the issue is. Especially since some here harp on things (the "wondrous, amazing, unbeatable brompton), and then argue when others disagree. Now when the other person/s have an opinion, those same individuals pounce. Ridiculous!
As I assume that you are pointing at me (though I surely never wrote the Brompton would be "wondrous, amazing, unbeatable"): You obviously got something wrong. Mr. Remi wrote his opinion here in this thread that - paraphrased - Peter Boutakis would be a clueless idiot who would never achieve building a single bike and furthermore he would probably not even intend to do so but fooled his backers to get the money. Tough I do not agree with this opinion Joe Remi obviously has every right to have it as well as to publish it (within what is legal where he posts it). i do however see no value in repeating the very same argument over and over w/o adding any additional argument. And - judging from the history of this thread - I was not the only person with this opinion. Now, that the Helix has materialised Joe has proven to be wrong and seemed to be in kind of a reality shock for a couple of days. Until he discovered his new opinion: Peter has lied to the backers about the weight and a ti-bike that weights 11,x kg is nothing but a bad joke. Again I would not agree and again Joe has every right to have and publish his opinion. But as he again starts to repeat this opinion in the very same way every couple of posts over the last pages like a broken record I am again of the opinion that this repetitions do not add any value to this thread and it would be more interesting if he would tell something that he did not tell numerous times before in the very same way. That's all.

Regarding the Brompton: I own one and I like it. It has it's downsides along with it's upsides but overall for me it is a pretty solid package for my needs. That's why I own one. If something pops up that fits my needs better I might switch. This is why I am interested in the Helix in the first place. Time will tell but until now I does not seem a fully blown Brompton-replacement for my needs. Others may prefer other folders over the Brompton and there's nothing wrong with that. However: When someone makes false claims about i.e. the Brompton I might correct him in case I now better. Pretty simple.

The astonishing thing is that with all it's quirkyness over the course of the last 40 years nobody has managed to build a better compromise bike for those where the folding has relevance. Which is really strange but leads to the conclusion that Andrew Richie probably did something right. Still it is obviously not everybody's favorite bike and there's nothing wrong about that.

So if you manage to distinguish between opinions, false claims/alternative facts and the generic topic of netiquette/forum culture (like i.e. not to play the broken record game) you might be able to judge more reasonably as it seems you targeted into the wrong direction. Which you are still free to do - it's your opinion and it's said to be a free country after all.
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